Am I doing this correctly?-gctid9705

Everything ends when you have a HFWO because you ejaculate. So if that's what you want, you got it. If you want hands free dry orgasms, keep relaxing, don't clench, enjoy the pleasure sensations in the rest of your body not just penis. You could try different positions from sitting. Sitting on a progasm may be limiting the movement of the p-tab and/or forcing an ejaculation through direct stimulation. You are almost certainly not having super orgasms; these are super traditional orgasms at best. Ejaculation is counterproductive to having dry orgasms. Read the wikis.

The HFWO is not what my goal is, it just happens to be what is happening .

I should have been more clear in my original post, I am not actually sitting on it, I am more leaned back in a chair, but not actually sitting on top of it. It does have free movement. I also do get the convulsions or leg shaking that begins in my toes and slowly works it way all the way up my body into my chest and arms. I also get the "lightheaded swimmy" feeling like I am drifting off somewhere or floating away.

I try to relax when it starts becoming intense or I feel like it is moving to an HFWO, I can bring it back down a bit, but then it starts to move back up in intensity, that's when I have trouble controlling it, and the HFWO happens.

I would love to keep from having the HFWO and try to concentrate more on the former. Just not sure of the best way to go.

I have read the WIKI's and I have been trying them as well.

This is the link I read that I used to start everything with.

https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/12116/quick-and-dirty-path-to-the-super-o/p1

First off, I would say "good for you"! You have achieved a HFWO. Now that you know how to do that, you can focus on letting go even more. It is really scary to do it at first. You have to really "let go" and focus on nothing. Allow the feeling to crest and to relax. That way you will stay on top of the wave without forcing yourself over. Then you will realize that the wave is actually a tsunami. Then you will reach a whole new level in pleasure. Good luck!

Something new this morning, its been 4 days since I used it last, today I had it in for about 5-10 minutes, not clenching, just leaving it alone. I started to feel the signs of it beginning. My toes on my right foot started twitching and slowly started moving up to my knee. This continued for about 5 or so minutes, then my left toes began also, then same thing progressing up to me knee. But then, it slowly started disappearing. Then it stopped all together.

So, I did a very light contraction, and everything started again. As it started to go away, I did another small contraction, and it continued to build into a stronger feeling moving up into my stomach and chest. The convulsions started my hips moving which I felt that I couldn't control.

Then I noticed something else new, if I was to hold the small contractions, my convulsions would get stronger, but then slowly fade, but as I released the contraction, they began again, even stronger. I could keep this up now and prolong these feelings.

I was able to continue this for about 20-25 minutes before I got tired and couldn't continue and this time there was no HFWO.

My question is this, am I progressing in the right direction?

with my recent discoveries i would advise you do nothing then when it fades a small, subtle contraction to get it going again, then immediately release. But only do it when you need to do it, when things 'fade'

Can i ask what your penis was doing during these rises in pleasure? was it in tandem? going hard when you felt it build?

That is exactly what I am planning to try tomorrow.

Today was the first time I did not have an erection at any point, at least that is what I can remember. It felt like I was on my way to an ejaculation at times, but it never happened.

see for me i need to have an erection to feel anything at all, it is good i think because when i get stiff the tip of my penis gets really sensitive, so i feel the orgasm in my prostate AND my penis too, all over but more in the tip.

Something I have been trying lately is using numbing cream.

Its removes the problem of wet orgasms and allows you to focus entirely on the Aneros.

I will write as I progress along.

UPDATE

I now believe that numbing cream is the way to. I have been using the cream for about 6 sessions now with great results. Without the sensations of a penile orgasm, it is now very easy to focus on the Aneros.

I have been having great Super O's & Prostate orgasms now more frequently.

Yesterday, I had a wonderful 3.5 hr session. Not even the slightest urge for a "wet" orgasm, just great prostate ones.

Something new since then, after I removed it, I was then able to continue without the Aneros. I was able to trigger them without it. Major breakthrough for me.

Today, Sunday, I am still able to trigger them without the Aneros. I do hope this is a permanent change for me.

I will update more in the next few days.

Steve

So, I haven't used it since last week, I will tomorrow though.

I can still trigger them, (with a little work), without the Aneros. Using the Aneros is still much better.

I am still going to swear by the numbing cream, it allows me to push farther than I normally would be able to, and I think that because of this, it has become much easier for me to now have much stronger, quicker experiences.

The last time, I was so exhausted and overheated from the session, I felt nauseous and dizzy, I felt like I was going to pass out afterwards. I worked up such a sweat that I needed water and a cold shower to recoup.

Looking back, it was my best session ever, but I am nervous as to where my next one will take me.

Steve

What is this numbing cream and where is it applied? Have you got a link?

I was looking at some online after reading through this thread. Is Aspercreme Maximum Strength (with lidocaine) ok? They sell this at a local pharmacy. It is meant for aches and pains and I think as long as it was applied externally it would be fine anywhere. Any opinions?

What I use is http://www.stockroom.com/Boy-Butter-Extreme-16oz-P3096.aspx , seems to be out of stock though.

I apply it directly to head and shaft of the penis.

We originally used it for sex, we live a FLR, and she will sometimes choose to use this on me with a condom or two, to delay my orgasm while she has many.

I am also curious to know if I'm doing this right. I have the maximus and prograsm, and have not really had any results other than explosive penile orgasms, which are great, but not what I'm seeking in the long run. So my question is this: When I manually move the progasm in and out, I can feel the tip of the head pass over my prostate (I know this because of the white fluid that comes out of my penis), but when I try to move it using sphincter contractions, I do not feel as if the tip is touching my prostate. So, that being said, should I look at getting a shorter massager? I'm wondering if everyone's anatomy is different, and with the sphincter contractions, the massagers are in too far to massage the prostate, or am I just not giving it enough time and patience? My five previous sessions usually last around an hour, and have not been close to a super O.Thanks for the help!

Patience. It prob wouldn't hurt to a go a little longer than an hour if you had time. You prob need to strengthen you pelvic muscles some still and this will come with time. I think the wiki recommends not manually manipulating the aneros. Also, stop having a traditional orgasm with the aneros in. This could hinder your rewiring process. Forget about what a traditional orgasm feels like because this is something completely different. Just relax and concentrate on every subtle sensation or pleasure. Over time you will get better at this and will be able to grow the pleasures by just concentrating on what you are feeling at that moment. This is what starts the feedback loop.

Thanks for the advice. One other question about the rewiring process, and I know this may seem like a dumb question, but will that affect my ability to have a traditional orgasm, and specifically intercourse with my wife? For obvious reasons, I do not want to do anything to alter pleasing her, but yet there are times when I need pleasure for me, that is what is so alluring to the aneros prostate orgasm, so there is no refractory period. At 53 I can't just hop back in the saddle an hour or two later, now it's more like two days later. 🙁

I'm not experienced with this yet, but I've read once you are completely rewired you can have dry orgasms and keep going. The one thing I've noticed is after my super o I could pretty much push off any feelings of ejaculation as long as I wanted afterwards.

Achieving the sense of pushing off an ejaculation with getting dry orgasms and a super o would be awesome. In periods of masturbation and in times of intercourse, the urge to ejaculate can be so overwhelming, but one thing I've learned is that edging has helped prolong the fun. So if being rewired to the point of prolonging this feeling and pushing off ejaculating is the goal, I'm all for it!

**Update**

So, something new today, not sure what to make of it.

It has been about 8 days since I used it. I was using 2-3 times a week, but started to notice it was becoming a bit lackluster, so I decided to change it up to only once a week and see what happens.

Also, I read that some people believe that abstaining from an ejaculation is a benefit, I cannot say whether that is really true or not. I live with my wife in a "alternative" lifestyle, I am kept in chastity most of the time, only having an orgasm about every 6-8 weeks. So, I cannot say with any certainty that abstaining helps, I don't have anything but that to base anything off of.

So back to today, like I mentioned, its been about 8 days since I used it last.

It started almost immediately as soon as I put it in, the feelings and the uncontrolled spasms and clenching, not sure how else to describe it. It started really fast and progressed very quickly into almost violent style spasms and clenching. Almost to the point where my body wasn't able to respond the way it wanted to, it couldn't keep up. This continued for about 30 minutes or so. I was beginning to become exhausted, but my body didn't want to stop.

Then, out of nowhere, something strange happened.

A different feeling happened, the spasms stopped, but the clenching didn't, it was more of a constant stronger isolated clench. In a way much more gentle and calm. I almost don't even remember it. I cant really even describe it, it was very slow, strong and felt very deliberate and focused. It felt really good, something new. I cant say how long it lasted, but if I had to guess, 3-5 minutes.

But, here is the even stranger part, when that ended, so did everything else. It was over. There were no more feelings to continue, the energy was gone. No traditional orgasm, nothing.

I was very relaxed, but it really felt like someone turned off a switch on me.

I not sure what to make of this. Not sure what it was or if it will happen again. We will see next Monday.

Has anybody else encountered anything like this before?

Steve

...out of nowhere, something strange happened. A different feeling happened, the spasms stopped, but the clenching didn't, it was more of a constant stronger isolated clench. In a way much more gentle and calm. ... it was very slow, strong, and felt very deliberate and focused. It felt really good, something new.
No traditional orgasm, nothing.
I was very relaxed, but it really felt like someone turned off a switch on me. I not sure what to make of this. Not sure what it was or if it will happen again. Has anybody else encountered anything like this before? Congratulations for transitioning into the "Calm Seas of Orgasm". IMHO, these are the best Super-O's as your body is not exhausted by distracting tension release spasms but has instead morphed the tension into relaxed pleasure. Pure blissful pleasure that leaves you sated, yet energized.
Good Vibes to You !

Rumel, I do believe you are correct. I think I am just beginning on the road to that. It is a much more calm pleasurable place to be.

**UPDATE**

I was going to wait until Monday, but I felt like I needed to this morning.

I am glad I did!!

I had a 90 minute session this morning that was unbelievable. I was all of what Rumel spoke of, the "Calm Seas of Orgasm". No violent spams, no strong clenching. Just a whole new level of calmness and much better feelings.

I am not exhausted, more relaxed.

These feelings were so much stronger and deliberate, almost pinpointed right where it needed to be. I had very mild clenching, small gentle spasms, but intense incredible feelings. Not sure how to describe them. It was almost like being on the verge of a "HFO" but never getting over the top, just a prolonged heightened level. Probably doesnt make sense, but I dont know how else to describe it.

I think it would have continued much longer, but I had to stop, due to time constraints.

But, I hope this is a new place that I can continue to build upon.

Steve

Makes sense to anyone who's been there. I can't add anything to what you wrote that would make it clearer to someone who hasn't.

**UPDATE**

Well, I had to stop for a couple weeks. Everything was going well, progressing good, but because I am in chastity and hadn't had an orgasm in over 30 days, after the last time, I was at work, no Aneros, I began to have a very quick and hard contractions. They were nice at first, but after about 30 seconds, it progressed almost instantly and I had no chance to try even to stop it and I had a wet orgasm while at my desk at work.

It was then that I decided that I couldn't keep progressing if this is what was going to happen. So, I stopped for a couple weeks.

I tried it again this morning with phenomenal results, just like riding a bike. 🙂

So, I will resume as I have in the past and see what happens.

Steve

UPDATE

3 words.

"I never knew".

http://malechastitytrainingforcouples.tumblr.com/post/127639404308

I am posting this for the picture in the link. It is a very good demonstration of what muscles are used.

http://malechastitytrainingforcouples.tumblr.com/post/127639404308

I am posting this for the picture in the link. It is a very good demonstration of what muscles are used.

That is EAXCTLY what i have been doing and exactly what happens. That movement though for me is VERY rapid and for some reason i do not feel any pleasure from said movement. Why? i do not know.

Also how on earth is any larger device meant to move even with that contraction?