Advice on Involuntaries-gctid9236

I'm not exactly sure what caused them to start happening for me regularly and frequently besides just doing the "do nothing and relax" approach.

Relaxing on my back with my knees up and relaxed apart slightly, deep breathing and gently pulling in with my urinary sphincter muscle--not the anus--while tickling my nipples brings them (and the intense dry orgasms and super O's that follow) on.

Hi @liquidflow,

Involuntaries come as a matter of course as you pursue your Aneros sessions. My advise to you is that you relax and enjoy the Aneros for what it is.

Also you talk about "involuntary contractions during sessions." Do you do the Kegel Exercises?
If so, they may be helpful for you as you pursue your Aneros sessions.

See also: Kegel Exercises for Men.

Hope this helps.

Thom./BigGlansDC

I am not exactly what you would consider a new user of aneros products. I purchased my first aneros over 10 years ago. I had some early success and then over time was not able to have sessions very frequently. I am just now beginning to have sessions more regularly. I have tried the "do nothing" approach as well as trying kegel exercises and regardless of technique I can't seem to get the involuntary feedback loop started. I have wondered if this could have anything to do with having had back surgery.
I enjoy my sessions for what they are and always try to stay as relaxed as possible. I get pleasurable feelings but can't help to wonder what lies on the other side of the involuntary contractions.

Hi @liquidflow,

Can you tell us what Aneros model you purchased ten years ago? I am curious.

As regards the "do nothing" approach, I settled upon that technique last February or March. I believe that the Aneros Directions for Use recommends that one lies on one's side when using the Aneros. So now, I have most of my sessions lying on my right side. I insert my Aneros models with my right leg straight down and my left leg hooked to my chest. That pose makes for easy insertion of the Aneros.

Then when the Aneros is situated comfortably upon my prostate, I bring both my legs down to a sitting position while lying my right side. That one pose is ideal for the "do nothing" approach. My Aneros models work well in that pose. Their motion is activated by very gentle breathing and maybe an occasional Kegel or two thrown in. The result is sweet, sexual energy and pleasure!

Oh yes, relaxation is key to all of this. I too wonder "what lies on the other side of the involuntary contractions." 😉 Thom./BigGlansDC

The only two models available back then were the MGX and the SGX. Since then I have acquired almost all of the different models but the involuntaries still elude me.

Liquidflow, I have involuntary contractions infrequently too. IDK why. In another topic recently I said that I imagined the involuntaries as a feedback loop of cascading orgasms but someone said I don't need involuntaries for a super orgasm (I forget who).

A TED talk about orgasms ( http://www.ted.com/talks/mary_roach_10_things_you_didn_t_know_about_orgasm) said they have been proven to originate in the solar plexus region of the spinal cord. They proved this by stimulating orgasms in dead people who were kept alive on a respirator. (Don't ask :-D)

I experience great pleasure nevertheless. I'm exploring meditating on my solar plexus chakra. I've tried everything. Where is your back injury?

Some guys have involuntaries immediately the first time they insert and others never do. I wonder which group has the most satisfaction!

Hello Euphemistic,

I had my L4-L5 disc removed a number of years ago. While I still have pleasurable sessions I don't feel like I have had a super o. I had a few amazing sessions prior to my back surgery that may have been super o's but since I have been pursuing more frequent sessions as of late I have not been able to attain that level of pleasure again. It is good to know that I am not the only one that doesn't get frequent involuntaries and that it doesn't necessarily hinder progress towards the ultimate goal.

Hi liquidflow. The lumbar region is below the solar plexus region at the thoracic level of the spine. Solar plexus or celiac plexus is a network of sympathetic nerves generally extending from the navel to the rib cage that radiate outward, thus the solar association. They are supposed to be where orgasms originate according to some studies. I'm not a doctor or researcher so take my guesses as just guesses. My guess is that your solar plexus is not involved with your lumbar surgery because they are separate regions.

So that's good but doesn't explain why you're not having the high level of pleasure you had before the surgery. How frequently are you riding? Do you have pain in your back? Anything else change since the surgery?

Hey, liquidflow. I've had S1-L5, L4-L5, and L3-L4 fused at the facet joints a little over a year ago. I still have whatever minimal disc that still exists remaining, which if I do things wrong, I can still get a bulge to pinch a nerve. I've had degenerative disc disease for probably 20 years or so, and as a result, I have very little feeling in my anus/rectum area, which, barring some new nerve-regenerating technology, I'm not expecting much increase in sensations there. I believe that I once had a Super-O, when I still had nerves that worked there. So I encourage all of you to take care of your back and not let chronic back pain get out of hand.

I still get some sensations, but I mostly use the Aneros' on sleepovers (going to sleep with and Aneros inserted); I've found that regular overnight use helps tone the spincter, anal, and rectal muscles so I don't have any "surprizes' when I strain to pee. I also have discovered that when inserted, I won't wake up in the middle of the night with debilitating leg cramps. Any one else know anything about these things?

I currently get involuntary movements in all my sessions. It feels as though I'm building up to a traditional orgasm (rock hard erection), and then I hit a wall. It all stops. Don't know why this happens but it's been going on for years. Still have never had a super o.