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I've been doing some experimentation with the Shakti device found here:

http://www.spiritualbrain.com

I have some more experimentation to do, but I strongly suspect that there is a literal change in brain physiology when a person gains the ability to spontaneously have many vaginal orgasms or prostate orgasms a day. I surmise this because I have used the device to temporarily stop my ability to have them.

I hypothesize that I can rig up that thing to stimulate the brain to produce the proper conditions for triggering a session of the female equivalent of Super-O's. I think it has to do with the limbic system, which suggests that other phenomena of the left amygdala and right hippocampus may be present in people with this ability. So I'm curious if those who are Super-O adepts have had experiences with the higher chakras, feelings of emotional telepathy with intimates, and/or experiences of a supernatural "presence" either male or female, but I would assume female in this context, especially during Aneros sessions?

If my hypothesis yields results, I am also curious if any men in the greater Boston area might be willing to have a session with my Shakti device with the settings I would like to test?


   
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helo helo arform alv was besion you πŸ’‘ πŸ’‘ 😯 😯


   
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"besoin"? I don't understand you.


   
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Artform and alv were needing me?


   
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I just want to say they know much more about it πŸ™„


   
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That is an intriguing device Zane. I would be a bit hesitant to hook it up to my noggin though. πŸ˜•


   
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Hi zaneblue and plantation!! πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€ AND Shakti!!! πŸ˜€

Great news that you are exploring these techniques zaneblue! Those of us pursuing these explorations as part of our development here look forward to more detail from your experiments...

A friend is a colleague of Dr. Michael Persinger at Laurentian University here in Ontario, and Persinger is the originator of much of this work on electromagnetics, specific brain stimulation patterns and "the God Helmet". Todd Murphy, whose site you have linked us to here, is an associate of Persinger and his university program. Here is a link to one of Todd's key papers on the subject, and one that helps map the multiple layers involved in the mysteries of consciousness: http://www.shaktitechnology.com/consciousness.htm

I am working up a series of posts on this electromagnetic stimulation approach for my KSMO thread, KSMO + Sciences = Ecstatic Energies + more where you can find related neuroscience information and connections. The science explained and linked there is as useful in Aneros as KSMO: http://www.multiples.com/howtolastlongerinbed/the-multiple-orgasm-trigger-for-men-and-women/complementary-resources-and-perspectives/2519-key-sound-science-ecstatic-energies-more

Building from the neural networks and neurotransmitters, and related electrochemical layers into their individual electromagnetic fields and magnetite rich three layered meninges envelope of the skull brain and spinal cord, with its shifting clouds of electromagnetic activities, to the quantum level brain signalling processes of the microtubules in our cells and the related other cell components, to our mitochondria that power the entire system of systems.

We are looking at acquiring a shakti system here too, and would appreciate being able to set up comparable testing protocols and data sharing. Right now I wish I was closer to Boston zaneblue, having been able to answer to answer yes, yes, yes and yes to your conditional question chain! πŸ˜‰ I will PM you as our plans move forward.

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That's even better, that you are buying a Shakti unit on your own. I didn't want to come out and post "plunk down $285 to possibly fool around with your brain wiring to maybe help get Super-O's" so I offered to share my unit, and I am totally willing to do that! But you having your own makes things much easier.

Don't do this yet, I want to wait and make sure my sexuality comes back to its regular fifty orgasms a day and very high libido before I ask people to try this, but I did the septal signal since it said it would enhance sexuality. It gave the sensation of clitoral orgasm, right before clitoral orgasm, but it seemed to wipe out any higher sexuality and most definitely wiped out my ability to have vaginal orgasms. So I think that signal would enhance traditional male orgasms, to the detriment of the Super-O.

So I'm thinking, haven't tested yet, that the opposite signal would increase vaginal or prostate orgasms, in other words instead of shutting down the limbic system, increasing amygdala activity might just work. It's going to take me a couple weeks to know for sure.

It's so weird not being turned on by penis! 😯 πŸ˜† I'm hoping that will come back in the next day or two.


   
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Hi zaneblue, plantation is challenging me to comment on something I have no direct experience but as an electrical engineer, and (i) knowing that the brain and nervous system is an electrical system and (ii) that changing electric fields induce electric currents then it is quite plausible that changing external magnetic fields around our brain can alter the state of conciousness.

Having said that, Love_is posted this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_-txbHNyOY page 4 of this long thread.


   
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The right amygdala seems to be implicated. I'm not sure, it will take a month or two of more testing to be certain, but I am crazily spontaneously vaginally orgasmic right now. Of course male wiring might be different.

I am experiencing the after-effects of the first altered states signal. The signal itself didn't do anything much for me, but now a few days after I am definitely feeling an effect.


   
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This is so cool. I look forward to reading your conclusions and findings. If I was in the area I would gladly be a test subject. Anything for more pleasure right? πŸ˜†


   
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The layout of the excitation and sensing coils is reminiscent of the Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) magnetometer developed and marketed to the oil exploration folk by Varian Associates circa 1960. http://www.papimi.com/papimi.gr/NMR.htm

That technology worked with Hydrogen protons (Varian's sensor was a pint of common motor oil). The brain has an abundance of hydrogen so this should work well to sensing magnetic patterns that move about. The output frequency of Hydrogen Proton precession (wobble) is about 2000Hz and that's well apart from the body frequencies that were mentioned here a couple of months ago.

Using it to, 'flash your ram' seems more difficult to comprehend.

@Zaneblue -- please share your results !!!

Now the big question -- wonder if this might block my Orgasmic Migraine?


   
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a big thank you for all links rook my question is can your have its phenomenon with the Aneros ❓ ❓


   
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Good lord, before you know it theyll be using these to interogate enemy combatants. ~Alright now Mohamad your going to experience a nice tingling sensation then youll tell us everything~ LOL. Crazy machines.


   
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Hard to say just yet. I thought it would be the left amygdala stimulation that would help with vaginal orgasms, but it had no effect at all. The left amygdala is associated with feelings of bliss. The after effect I guess causes the opposite part of the brain to stimulate itself a few days after a session. It's strange that the right amygdala would cause such intense spontaneous orgasms, because the right amygdala is supposed to be associated with despair, fear, horror, feeling of impending doom, etc. Why would stimulating that cause orgasms?

On the other hand, I've sort of lost the capacity for those feelings. Horror movies, for example, do nothing for me anymore. I used to really enjoy them. So maybe my brain is rewired. I don't know. I'd like to get some feedback from artform before I test it on any men, particularly those who have never had a Super-O.

I do quite like the idea of a retreat center for men though--I know nutritionally how to help a man have a Super-O, I'd like to add to that knowledge. That would be really hot, to be able to fast track men onto the Super-O pleasure highway. πŸ˜†


   
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I did notice that the Brainsync mp3s on the album Ectasy have a a high and low pitch playing at the same time. Two frequencies if you will.


   
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I did notice that the Brainsync mp3s on the album Ectasy have a a high and low pitch playing at the same time. Two frequencies if you will.

Rumel's Hypn also exploits the 'beat' between a pair of frequencies. I tried several pair of ear buds before I suppressed the individual frequencies and could get the effect of just the 'beat.' (ear buds that emphasized sound around 200Hz were the offenders.)

Kelley Howell categorizes her productions by beat frequency -- Alfa thru Theta:
check out: http://www.brainsync.com/cat_brn_wav_typ.asp


   
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Zane...

I'm in the Greater Boston area and will try anything once when it comes to feeling good... maybe twice!

Good luck as you continue your research... let me know if you'd like a guinea pig.


   
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I'd be tempted to buy one of these things but I've never experienced a Super O and I don't know what it would do to me. His site mentions several things that have interested me in the past. Out of body experiences, lucid dreams, and spiritual growth. Naturally I'm most interested in what effects it might produce by stimulating my brain's pleasure center. If I knew for sure that it would put me on the fast-track to a Super O I'd cough up the money in a heartbeat.


   
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I'm waiting for artform to try it. I'm also doing further experimenting on myself in the meantime.


   
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Zaneblue, all good speed with your trials in the New Year. Strange word "amygdala" it reminded me of something I saw on the Internet years ago, I can't find the original reference anymore, but I remembered it was something about "clicking your amygdala forward" - any ways here are some slightly off the wall references you might enjoy that support your intuition!

http://www.neilslade.com/Papers/sex.html
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http://www.viewzone.com/amygdala/index.html


   
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Hi Zaneblue and All!

I'm waiting for artform to try it. I'm also doing further experimenting on myself in the meantime.

Don't want to be disappointing, but we have not yet acquired a shakti system and it may be a couple of months or more before we get to that stage. Setting more groundwork here first. Hope also to involve Dr. Persinger and associates in the orgasmic dimensions possible.

My personal neural history is unusual and I want to have another MRI done on those issues before personally starting the electromagnetic stimulation experiments. Zaneblue, I'll PM you when the timing becomes clearer.

I hope that Pan might see this. Thanks hapticbear for the amygdala clicking links. Pan has reported some success with the Neil Slade approach. It is interesting that it involves the "forward motion" sensation, compared to the overloaded right amygdala shifting everything into the blissful left amygdala in the skakti process.

all the best neural navigation and voyaging throughout 2010 all

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All right, in the meantime I will experiment more on myself.


   
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Great Artform, thanks for remembering Pan had posted about this - I've just found his postings on the subject at Jack Johnston's multiples site from way back:
http://www.multiples.com/howtolastlongerinbed/the-multiple-orgasm-trigger-for-men-and-women/complementary-resources-and-perspectives/675-whole-brain-super-sex-t-d-lingo-neil-slade

There's a link in the first post by Lionheart to the original Lingo site www.brainbomb.org where all his step-by-step lessons are - the site disappeared, but you can still, thankfully, access every page via the www.archive.org facility which stores past web pages:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010610041916/www.brainbomb.org/brainbomb/frntmtr/contents.html

Combine visualisation of feathers tickling the front parts of your amygdalae as detailed at the end of this page:
http://www.neilslade.com/Papers/crazy.html
whilst Aneros inserted and man are you in for a treat! The triadic stimulation of prostate and forward parts of amygdalae would appear to be orgasmicgate πŸ™‚

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Thank you hapticbear for providing these links! πŸ˜€

They have been very informative, and I'm motivated to try these simple techniques to click forward. I've got nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

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Great Hapticbear!!! πŸ˜€

These links and the availability of these sites again is an extremely valuable resource. Thanks so much and we all look forward to detailed reports of your adventures with this technique!! πŸ˜‰ How about blogging in the Blogs section here?

happy new year all year all

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hello all here in a link to watch a video for the brain mystical French http://beta.onf.ca/selections/films-scientifiques-divertissants/visionnez/cerveau_mystique/


   
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good morning have links here is interest for the one what she interests unfortunately pa in francais for me http://www.near-death.com/experiences/triggers21.html From Publishers Weekly
Claiming that lovemaking can be a path to soulful realization, developmental psychologist Wade explores "one of the best-kept secrets in human history" in this study of ordinary people’s spontaneous spiritual awakenings through transcendent sex. Drawing heavily from the well-articulated, first-hand accounts of nearly 100 respondents (specifically chosen for their lack of any spiritual framework or ideology to explain the episodes), the author repeatedly offers historical, religious and cultural traditions as a background, and context for readers’ understanding of her arguments. Though not a how-to book per se, Wade’s volume broaches the myriad shapes mystical sex may take, including animal possession, time travel, out-of-body experiences, past life regression and even enlightenment, and it provides warnings on the down side of altered state sex (dangerous liaisons and overwhelming intimacy) and suggestions for facilitating transcendent sex. Despite the fact most of those interviewed had only a one-time experience, the long-term effects on their lives often proved profound and healing. Wade’s unique subject matter, and her openness with the research data, should make this a welcome addition to the spirituality/self-help genre.
Copyright Β© Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

Review
"... absolutely enthralling and completely captivating... Wade has written an essential guide to understanding the spiritual component of sexuality." -- Caroline M. Myss, author

"TRANSCENDENT SEX is a glimpse into the nature of your immortal divine being. Read, enjoy and be liberated." -- Deepak Chopra, author

"What Raymond Moody did for our understanding of death, Jenny Wade has done for sex...A heaven-breaking book." -- Kenneth Ring, Ph.D., author

The subject of transcendent sex "is an understudied and unknown area...Highly recommended to collections in religion, spirituality, and sexuality." -- Library Journal, March 15, 2004

Product Description
IT'S NOT JUST SEX. IT'S NOT JUST LOVE. IT'S SOMETHING MORE....

But what could be better than sex? How about lovemaking that sweeps people into new realities, producing altered states of consciousness a thousand times more powerful than the most earth-shattering orgasm? Lovemaking so spectacular that it truly is a religious experience?

Transcendent Sex is not about the "Tantric method." It is about the best-kept secret in human history: that ordinary people, with no special training, can find themselves in different spiritual realms when making love -- an experience so profound that nothing will ever be the same. It is about sex that triggers episodes identical to the highest spiritual states -- as described in the annals of shamanism, yoga, Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam -- including visions, channeling, reliving past lives, transcending the laws of physics, and seeing the face of God.

This revealing book tells of lovers who engaged in sex as usual and suddenly found the veil between the worlds torn open. Transcendent Sex, like any other spiritual awakening, changes lives. Atheists have become believers; long-standing psychological wounds have been healed; and the sexually abused have become whole. These are the inspiring, incredible true stories of people who experienced an ecstasy and fulfillment beyond the borders of this world.

About the Author
Jenny Wade, Ph.D., is a researcher in individual and organizational development specializing in consciousness studies, especially those facilitating transformative processes. A graduate of The Fielding Institute, she is on the faculty at the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology and is a frequent lecturer at other graduate schools and universities. She also works with Fortune 500 companies to optimize employee and organizational performance. She is based in California.

Excerpt. Β© Reprinted by permission. All rights reserved.
Chapter 1: Fireworks, Energy, and Light: Experiencing the Body Electric

Like on Star Trek when they get into the transporter and they sort of dissolve, I have that feeling of light going through me and a fire that goes down, the feeling that my body has been burned away to ash and there's nothing left, but I've been transported elsewhere.
-- Lucky

I've felt my cells literally get lit up...like those little fiber-optic things. It's pervasive, not just on the surface of me, but through my whole system...and that would sometimes last for days.
-- Shaka

It's like liquid fireworks. It's like sparks that come out in liquid form.
-- Adele

I met Suzette, a vivacious, petite redhead, when she was in her fifties. She is a pragmatic, no-nonsense woman whose career had been spent in nursing and public health administration. She had been brought up in a conventional Midwestern home without knowledge of spiritual traditions outside the mainstream Christianity and Judaism of 1950s Middle America. She had never considered herself religious, but she came to me with a story that represents how transcendent sex transforms. She is the "everyman" and "everywoman" we all are. As we settled down to coffee in my office, she began to tell me about something that had happened many years ago with a man she'd only dated a few times. "I guess we've known each other more than twenty-five years now. We've had an on-and-off relationship because we live far apart," she explained. "When we've gotten together, many times we've had sex, and many times we've not. He's been a good friend."

They were business acquaintances living in different states whose professional activities brought them together periodically. They were just beginning to explore a more romantic connection when they had an opportunity to go to San Francisco together. "This trip was our first time to have sex," she confided, adding that it was enjoyable, that she was a little more nervous and excited than usual, but that nothing unusual had happened, until:

I had my eyes closed, and I began to see light, and light moving. It was just so incredibly powerful. It could even have been a different dimension. It felt very unusual.
The light was just going through me. I didn't know what it was part of, but it was definitely a physical feeling going through me and shooting out of the top of my head. I had feelings of white lights shooting out of the top of my head. The lights were really brilliant. The brightness of the lights was incredible. You think of sunlight or lightning, but nothing like this! It was radiant white light brighter than anything I'd seen in nature.

And then it also affected me emotionally in a way, and I started crying because it was overwhelming, an emotional effect like "Oh, my God, I'm coming home. I got home." A feeling that I'd been separated for a long time, like coming together, and finally being home.

I'm mainly a thinker, not emotional, but it was as if someone had taken a finger and pushed that incredible emotion button, and I really didn't know what hit me. I was so happy. It was a wonderful, peaceful feeling. Total peace, a feeling of great love and connection, and of going home.

Suzette was stunned. Nothing remotely like this had ever happened in her practical, down-to-earth life. Furthermore, such happenings did not mesh with her scientific knowledge or beliefs. She made some attempt to communicate what had occurred to her partner, but said, smiling ruefully, "I don't think he was aware of what was going on. I remember trying to tell him, and I think he laughed. He was a real stud, and we were in our early twenties, so it wasn't like he took it really seriously."

Suzette and her lover continued to see each other. Sex was always good, but it never reached those heights again for her. The liaison drifted into a friendship, and she eventually married someone else. Her marriage didn't work out, something she attributes to her ineptitude in the bedroom.

"I was just so naΓ―ve about sex," she commented, shaking her head. "My sex life with my husband was so bad. He was into black fringe and nudity, and I was into my flannel nightgown. The poor guy! I feel sorry for him now when I think of it."

They eventually divorced. Weary of prolonged celibacy during the years raising her son alone and wanting to "get some experience," Suzette began to date the relative of a good friend. There was some affection but no real chemistry between them. To her surprise, after having sex with him on a few occasions, she had another experience of transcendence.

I had the lights again, the brilliant lights. It was all so amazing, that way of shooting lights out of my head. The only difference was that it was not as emotional as the first time. Still, it was intense.
I was sad when it was over because it was really an exciting, thrilling experience. I wasn't aware of anything else when the lights were going. I wasn't seeing anything else, had no sense of time....The whole world was gone away, so I wouldn't have had a clue.

And then it just kind of eased off. I felt a little shaky afterward. The first time, I cried more, probably because the chemistry seemed better so that I felt more melded to [the first lover], but not enough that I picked him and decided to be his partner.

This time, I was surprised, especially since I didn't really like him....I've had wonderful sex since then with other people, but it happened just those two times. It was such a beautiful, wonderful experience. What would it be like to have it with someone you were really loving and wanting to have a relationship with?

As moving as these two incidents were, they had little impact on her life at the time. She mused, "I'd have thought that after having that experience, I'd have been more interested in spirituality and sexuality, but no. I was struggling to have my career and raise my child."

Still the seed took root. When I met her, her son was grown and Suzette had laid aside her health-care career to undertake several years of spiritual exploration, a quest she attributed to those two episodes. She had become a practitioner of Transcendental Meditation and yoga. Both gave Suzette a way to understand her experiences, though she was never able to replicate them nor have comparable experiences through meditation or yoga. Groping for words to describe how she understood the sexual episodes, she said, "[They] seemed spiritual because there was a feeling of unity and because of the brilliance of the lights. I don't know if it was God or Buddha or something like that, but it was such a positive feeling that it had to be a higher power of some kind." She continued, moving to discuss how these events had changed her:

It made me have more confidence in myself....I do feel like a special person now. It gave me hope. It made me curious...I'm starting to look back at my life, and there's a part of my life I've really neglected. I'm working on spirituality now.
Having this kind of experience makes me believe that there is so much more than I ever realized there could be...more than I was seeing in the world. And it amuses me that it happened through a sexual experience. That wouldn't have been a predictable thing for me to guess!

So when I could, I started looking at other ways of living and thinking. I would have bet you money that I wouldn't be here [in the religious community where I interviewed her], but now look at me.

To have an experience like this gave me hope that there's guidance in my life, and in other peoples' lives. That there's more of a plan. It's like you're being pulled by Spirit, which -- I don't know -- but that experience gave me hope that such a thing might be possible.

Suzette's story, in a way, is like all the other stories in this book. The experiences follow a clear pattern:

Individuals are surprised and dazzled by bedroom events that reveal a reality entirely foreign to their usual way of thinking. The events confound a religious person's beliefs or the disbelief of agnostics and atheists.
The experience can occur regardless of how much "in love" or sexually skillful a person is.
Most often, but not always, the experience involves only one member of the couple. The other party is frequently unaware that something earth-shattering is happening to the lover. Sadly, most people are reluctant to share these sacred, unsettling moments with partners because they fear a response that will be skeptical, mocking, or belittling. Over 80 percent of the people I talked to had never told another person what had happened to them.
Depending on the nature of the episode -- and Suzette's experience is actually one of the most "normal" or least strange -- the person may feel euphoric, omniscient, dazed, disturbed, or frightened. Their foundations are shaken in ways that may seem life-affirming or threatening.
The events may be hidden, but they are never forgotten. Like the near-death experiences that people kept secret before they became an acceptable part of public discourse, transcendent sexual episodes were recalled with extraordinarily vivid detail, even if they occurred long ago. Participants were relieved to be able to tell someone who was appreciative and nonjudgmental about some of the most significant things that had ever happened to them.
Like more recognized spiritual openings, these experiences were life-changing events. The most skeptical agnostics and atheists were reluctant to ascribe a spiritual meaning to what had happened, but even they admitted that their understanding of the world had been radically altered and that they could not explain what had happened to them (the sample includes physicists, physicians, and other "hard" scientists). However the vast majority, regardless of their former religious beliefs or disbelief, eventually went on to take up some form of spiritual quest in an attempt to understand what had transpired. Of those...


   
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Encore plantation, merci milles milles fois!

I have put links to the English version of Mystical Brain at KSMO and The Tao Bums. Thanks so much for that bilingual Canadian gem! And then the into to the Jenny Wade book is certainly fascinating. Thanks for sharing your increasingly rewarding explorations sir!!!

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